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A JUST GOVERNMENT !!

Posted by tawodi on April 21, 2012


Or…is it…. “just another”…….. government?

I watched today ( April 8 ) at about ten A.M. President Obama give a rambling barely coherent speech, of what his intended direction for this country is.

I was concerned that there was something physically wrong with him, as the speech in several places wandered, and was making no sense to me at all in places. I fully expected one of his aids to come up, interrupt him by whispering something in his ear, and then they would both leave the stage and the network would make some lame excuse that there had been an emergency requiring the President’s attention!

I am being deadly serious here…it was that jarring a performance.

This led me to think of what it is we are so in danger of losing, right now, as we dawdle in apathy and nobody seems to accept that it is US, that must move to save our country…It is US that must accept the FACT, that waiting for some creation of a cultural phenom as our savior, is the single most dangerous thing we can do as a nation of….. LAWS!

We are told, repeatedly, that governments that are just, rest assured of Gods blessing. We are told as Christians, “render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasers.”

We are told, we are to be in the world but, not OF the world.

Were we settled by people ( Puritans) who were devout and in their words engaged in, “Building a shining city on a hill.” Yes, we were.

As the Colonial society grew into what would become The United States, did the bigotry of some “Christian” sects seep into the cracks of that society? Yes it did, put plainly and simply.

For awhile it was legal to shoot Catholics in Mary’s town, later Maryland. Lord Baltimore put a stop to that foolishness!

Was it legal to shoot anyone seen coming over the border into the Massachussetts Bay colony from Rhode Island? Legal? Hell, it was required that you do so!!! Believe it or not, that law finally came off the books in the late eighties here in Ma.. 1980′s !!

These two, as well as hundreds of instances of others, are why the Constitution was framed as it was.

First, to assure the world that HUMAN RIGHTS, come from where ever you choose to, or WHAT ever you choose to consider, a higher power.NOT FROM MEN!!

It was framed to assure that this government has NO power to take them away. NONE!!

It ,the Constitution, was framed to assure that the sole existance of, THIS CONSTITUTION, is to protect them, enshrine them in such a way, that
Those who follow down the path of whatever destiny this nation has, never forget that. The constitution does not and, was not, formed to GIVE YOU ANY RIGHTS AT ALL!!!

This Constitution was framed and, this form of government, was CRAFTED, to protect your rights, provide for the common defense to do so, and to be that JUST GOVERNMENT, of that shining city on a hill.

We, all of us who pray, ask for wisdom, next time you pray for that, think and, Thank God, or whatever providence you happen to believe in, that the framers and the builders, SOMEHOW, inculcated in our people the thought that, THE JUST LAW,… agreed upon by our citizens,… is to be the ruler, in THIS country. Not whoever happens to presently shine in the cults of personality. The politically popular or the temporarily transcendant.

In the temporary passions we see all around us, as they rise and fall in seeming importance, they become a very poor substitute indeed for WISDOM.

Think of these things as you consider all of this, look into your heart and admit to yourself, that there have been and, will be times, when you yourself are dangerous in your passions and belief and, in the heights of passion are capable in the imprudent statement, or the innapropriate or even violent action that passion brings, as it suspends judgment.

Now, lets all once again, thank all those “old dead white guys” for their skill, wisdom and yes, the passion, to give us what they did….the last best hope of Mankind, That shining city on a hill.

a COMMENT:

Tawodi, you know that ain’t true. You can teach it in classes, as I did for thirty years, but there’s no truth in it. They pick the candidates they roll before us, and set up the primaries and elections, and give it all the facade that our vote means something, but does it? They slant the media the way they want us to see everything and we vote the way we’re channeled to vote – then we all go off to play our foolish games and wrap ourselves in our tedious little lives while they run the world the way they want to, at our expense – and where do “we” govern in any of this?? In reality, it’s all a facade of bullshyyt – and we except it, and pay the bill, and get mained and die in their wars – and for what?

rebuttal;  You both are right, but I side with Swremwin and here’s why.

I have not given up… my purpose here is the same as it ever was. To give honest perceptions to others to be of some service… no matter what form it may take…for others to use or discard….their choice, as it ever was.

This is all that is left to me, as I am at the end of my journey…or damned near anyway.

And you know WHAT? I REFUSE TO GIVE UP!

The street kid in me will NOT allow that! It is not through arrogance, or that I expect others to pay attention to me, that would be the height of stupidity and I am NOT stupid….but I am damned stubborn!

I REFUSE to believe we, as a people, who have lived the dream of freedom for over two hundred and thirty years, can not find among us the wherewithall to put a stop to this culture of envy that has so adroitly been crafted around us, to the detriment of everyone here! And, the ultimate destruction of this country and the spirit of it’s people!

EVERY -ONE- needs to STOP being a single issue voter..and vote FOR THE COUNTRY!

This means for instance “abortion” if the candidate is for it as a right for women, who gives a damn as long as they believe in the sanctity of the individual….and have a record of being a constitutionalist, then vote for them!

A fiscal conservative? Then vote for them, a constructionist who believes all them dead white guys and William O Douglas as well (a Black man) or Alan Keyes? (ANOTHER BLACK MAN) WELL THEN VOTE FOR THEM!

Can’t walk any more? Can’t drive any more? Then have your neighbor, your son or daughter, whoever! Go and get you an absentee ballot…THEN USE THE DAMNED THING AND VOTE!

I am sick to DEATH of hearing excuses about why nothing happens anymore.

THAT IS HOW THIS CURRENT FOOL GOT INTO OFFICE! Nobody gave enough of a damn to get off their ass!! And go frigging vote against him if nothing else!

The writing was on the wall I, you ,hell WE knew what he is and was… HE told us what he was going to do…why did we NOT stop him?

Single issue voters THAT’S WHY!! WELL!! This guy likes YELLOW jelly beans and everybody knows that isn’t right!!…. if he liked RED jelly beans well….. THEN I’d vote for him…….or some other equally juvenile, senseless…..CRAP!

So as a man, all I can hope to do is PZZZZ you off…and maybe, just MAYBE, that will get you to thinking and you will say to yourself…..AHH…XHIT old T is right, if I don’t stop this crap…… WHO WILL!

You sit in front of your puter and post here…right? Well why not go to blogs and post there! Give your opinion and support to the thousands of others who feel, and think, as you!! Spread the word….the nearest thing you will ever have to having your very own NEWSPAPER!

Now think about it and if you agree in the very least…get off your imaginary ass and DO IT! After all…. like me…. you ain’t doing anything else!

comment; Thomas Paine, a Pamphleteer from England said it all. He concluded America’s well-being would be an act of God’s Providence. He was our hero then. Today, his conclusions would be laughed at and derided as the folly of an affected mind – right? And we wonder why we are a nation in decline – –

This preceded the recital of Thomas Paine’s  ” These are the times that try men’s souls”…   speech.

REBUTTAL;

YOU SIR, ARE STILL A TEACHER OF HISTORY…IT IS INDEED FROM YOUR SELF AND CONSCIENCE THAT YOU AROUSE YOURSELF TO THE HEIGHTS OF PATRIOTISM THAT EVEN AS YOU DO…YOU FAIL TO SEE.

Even as the quotes of Thomas Paine are raised in print from your hand, you fail to rise to the sound of the guns and stand your ground, not in fear, you have established yourself as too brave a man for that, but in the feeling you have nothing left to give.!

To this I say to you, lead me! Show me the way you are far better educated than I…LEAD ME so that in these my final days, I may come up with the words, yea even perhaps the DEEDS, that may inspire others to then…. LEAD others.

You quote the words of the esteemed Mr. Paine and forget that he and less than a third of the men who lived here then, STOOD and resisted the fatal apathy of fear, took heart and fought and died that we now, some two hundred and thirty five years later, may take heart again and not die but simply STAND AND SAY….ENOUGH!! IT ALL STOPS HERE…AND CAST A VOTE!

You SIR, can still be a light to others with your knowledge, your constancy, and your spirit, if you can but escape the trap of despair that you have allowed to form in your mind. As I have raised my children to believe to their betterment…IF, YOU think you CAN’T, you’re right, you CAN’T! But, if you think you CAN…. well then you just Might! And that is all the guarantee any of us ever have, to free ourselves from the trap we create in our own minds, the most vicious, most ensnaring, the most hideous of ALL, for it is we who have created it!

As for me Sir, I will stand…With you, or with out you, I WILL STAND!

COMMENT;

There were three Thomases. One doubted Christ until he touched the wounds. One crossed the sea to America to call it to awakenss, then fought as a private in its Armies. Another coined high-minded words, but turned his back to Christ and ran for his life, leaving his wife and family to fend for themselves when the Dragoons approached – –

REBUTTAL;

Hmmmmm not bad, but what about US, never mind those Thomas’s…. THEY’RE DEAD!

WE ARE ALIVE!

Well, kinda sorta…..

COMMENT;

A judge told me once that he thought military service should be mandatory, with a two year commitment. Perhaps after health care is mandatory (?) we could put that in place and better help and guide our children.

ps sounds a bit like Hitler to me, the blue-eyed blond hair children.

This from a younger person this generation;

REBUTTAL;

My generation was the last, that faced mandatory service to the country.

By caving in to the runaway intelligentsia of the sixties and seventies, we became captivated by and then inured, to the idea, that the individual need make NO contribution to this country and it’s way of life. They also stopped civics classes in the late sixties and no longer REALLY teach just WHAT civics ARE!! Other than to outline all the gimmy’s you get as a citizen. You know those “entitlements” that others earn for you? You know those freedoms that you enjoy that some sap went out and served, and in some cases….. died for! Those rights that allow you to trash a whole city and the peace and civil serenity that the citizens have worked and paid for because you think you shouldn’t HAVE TO…even for your “HIGHER EDUCATION”…THERE’S A FRIGGING LAUGH!! Talk about misleading “descriptive verbiage”…. Higher education my ASS! Look how they….USE IT!

And now you compare those people from the generation before mine and mine itself as being willing pawns of NAZI’S!!??!!

Well…sir….you may take a flying_ ****_ at a rolling doughnut!!

People like me still understand to have all that we have, you NEED to work for it. You need to sacrifice for it. You need to suffer for the fruits of your labor most times

Do you wish to know WHY?

Because then, as now, when we give these things to you, they are worth EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAID FOR THEM! To you, they have no intrinsic worth because, OTHERS, sacrificed what was necessary to accomplish the goals…we lived and died so you would not have to, We left service and worked for forty some years for you to advance to the point, where you now can slander our lives, our sacrifices, and our dreams, FOR YOU, and call us “MAYBE LIKE NAZI’S!!!

Here comes that rolling doughnut again, you may want to catch it this time………..Wanna know WHY??

Well us old farts are damned tired of listening to some body with no accomplishments of their own, belittle ours! All those toys you are playing with???? WE INVENTED THEM FOR YOU…YOU IDIOTS!! You had better damned well get over your selves and get to work and do, YOUR PART!

Now OPHIDIOPHOBIA, all of this is NOT directed at you….the “you” being, in this case, “GENERIC”

It is directed at those who do the things I mentioned with impunity…at least in their myopic eyes!

COMMENT;

A person who “claims” citizenship in the Republic without serving it first is nothing but a greasy slug. So was the thought of the time in Athens when the concept of “Republic” was invented, and so should it be now. I do believe Socrates served as a general in his youth – –

That’s why I have great respect for Thomas Paine. He was a British Subject come here to awake America to its chance at Freedom and Democracy. But he just didn’t write words, he enlisted in the American Army, though not a Citizen of the Colonies. He was offered a chance at being an Officer or NCO, but he refused both, preferring to serve in the ranks only as a “high private” – a great man . .

These are again the Times that Try Mens Souls. The problem is, too many Americans now believe they don’t have one to worry about – –

If we magically cut our government by half and our taxes by half, we might just have the money in our pockets to buy the stuff we need – ya think? That’s why I follow Conservative rather than Progressive Politicians. Progressives are always looking for new ways to creat expensive programs, build giant Bureaucracies (sp) for them, then dive into our wallets and debt to pay for them. Time to stop that completely, or end up like Greece, Spain and Italy – bankrupt!

 REBUTTAL;
WE;
Not being the possessors of true “magic”, must rely on the written word to work our magic for us…… in the minds of others.This is called entering the arena of ideas….to sway the minds of the people….it is accomplished with FACTS……NOT as some would believe, with magic!

We see every day the results of “magic” from the Lamestream Media….at least it seems sometimes like that. But, is it truely magic, or is it simply plastic banana, goodtime rock and roll, BULLXHIT!?!

We see on these threads every day the presentation of ideas that come from that “mainstream’ and they are best described when properly examined as A CROCK OF PURE, UNADULTERATED CRAP!

FROM WHENCE….The beginning post of this thread.

There are over four thousand local, county, citywide, and state, news papers across this country…..There are over two thousand six hundred cable stations, local broadcast stations, and There among them, those that are V.H.F. AND U.H.F. That are broadcast as well. This includes NONE of the public stations, or universities or college stations, that broadcast also.

In the printed and broadcast media in poll, after poll, after poll, they come up with a 93…to….96 percent liberal to conservative staff ratio…..THIS is CALLED a FACT!!

Of the cable stations, from one central broadcast facility, guess how many FOX stations there are that are considered conservative? ELEVEN, yep that’s it, eleven!

All the other affiliates such as fox 25 out of Woostershire (Wooster) Massachusetts are considered LIBERAL!

DOES IT STILL SEEM LIKE MAGIC!?!

Almost all the big city markets are treated as if they were the sole property of the liberal establishment……there again, a nasty little FACT!!

Internet blogs that are rated in the “net parlance” of readable, outstrip the liberal to the tune of 71% conservative, to 22% liberal The rest undecided.

I published, for almost five YEARS, THREE of the top rated five thousand in the world all over the world! ( Source; Verve Earth statistical rating and listing service no longer extent Since being purchased by Google)

My life, religion, Family, blog this year already has over two thousand hits and climbing and many of those hits are linked to Facebook and other linkage services across the net by ping back services, spiders, and two or three others I don’t quite understand how they work.

There are thousands of other blogs rated as good or better than mine out there. You can write into and leave cogent comments or even submit articles to, for them to publish and disseminate across the country, and the world!

This is what I meant when I said that this is the next best thing to having your very own newspaper!! It wasn’t just a throw away line!

Now do you really want to complain about NOT HAVING A VOICE AND THAT EVERYTHING IS BULLXHIT!!!

18 or so votes in Idaho a few months ago should dispel that myth! Or 535 or so votes in the Florida Panhandle can dispel the rest of those myths as well!

I will bet you any money you care to name that Al Gore doesn’t think it’s a MYTH!

Some of you guys are pretty damned smart and write pretty well too! Come in, the water’s fine! Check it OUT fellas and gals….you’re gonna be frigging AMAZED!

AND….TA…DA!!….Blogs are FREE!! go to Google or WordPress and sign up and start writing. You can have as many as you can fill, for FREE, on those two platforms alone!

I still own the domain name, Tree of The Mustard Seed Ministries, but took it down (the web page) cause right now, I need to save money. That’s why, if you have looked for it, it has been gone about four months now.

You don’t need hot links to find me, just Google my name…….. You can get to all the blogs that way.

This concludes this conversation on another site I engaged in. It  concerned being active, or simply waking the hell UP and admit you are one of the slugs, you so describe as such! Do any of you now reading this… SEE THAT?  It has become pernicious as all get out,  how many people feel disenfranchised this way. The apathy has been carefully crafted by our leaders to cause it and then…. for them to gather power to themselves to control us….. YOU AND ME !!

As always follow the MONEY and POWER……and then wake UP! Follow your heart…This is the most important election of the century now before us…DO NOT vote for your self….vote for your GRANDCHILDREN.
Be well all Rev. Bruce………………………………..Tawodi

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Contemporary Secular or Relativistic Morality

Posted by tawodi on April 5, 2012


This is from the Military,com forums, where I regularly contribute to the exchanges there between active service members and Veterans who participate.

When I started this thread I fully expected to meet with a storm of resistance. Well I haven’t really and those that disagree seem to be holding their fire so far, as perhaps they research their responses.

I applaud them for that, as it is, as it should be, for a discussion to proceed so as to approach a concensus. Not that there will ever really BE a concensus as too many variables exist to do so….we, none of us, myself included, can convince others we have an answer much less all the answers, to either side of the question.

Now I will proceed to perhaps the pre-eminent of those lauded by atheists and agnostics, and others, who attempt to refute the connections to humanity and the consideration of linkage between morals and conscience. Dr. Richard Dawkins.

In 2006 he published a treatise that purported to present the “scientific argument” against free will and personal responsibility.

In his treatise he surmised that mankind was strictly a product of our environmental conditions in which we were raised by our parents and the place, family framework, social structure and surrounding social environment.

Now this weighty tome was quite the read,  if you lack a brain,  because the whole thing is flawed by positing the argument that it did.  I for one,  being living proof of that flaw and so, damned near, is most of humanity in the modern world especially here in America.

Why? Well since the entire theory posits that we will be so heavily influenced by our prior experiences we are incapable of changing ourselves or our surroundings by an exercise of free will.

In point of fact this publication also went so far as to proclaim with great fanfare among the intelligentsia of the liberal elite, that free will not only didn’t exist, but that it was impossible….FOR…… IT TO EXIST!

Now when you begin to examine the flaws and failures of this modern society we live in
You MUST consider,  that the modern liberal Psychiatric community and that of the Psychological associations agree almost to a person that this is so. Beginning with good old Sigmund Freud,  Jungian theories and so many others,  if you want to know who go look it up yourself, I ’haven’t the time ! In fact Dawkins even made these following statements in this tome of intelligent comments, which I quote for your edification. Don’t thank me, too many people take this man seriously!

1. “Doesn’t a truly scientific, mechanistic view of the human nervous system make nonsense of the very idea of responsibility?”

2. Any crime, however heinous, is in principle to be blamed on antecedent conditions acting through the accused’s physiology, heredity and environment.”

3. Dawkins even made the statement that…and I quote once again, “ Isn’t the murderer or rapist just a machine with a defective part?”

Now how to put this in perspective? First you must understand I may be guilty of condensing it just a smidgeon! Trust me,  there was a whole lot more verbiage and bluster and quite frankly, bloviating,  to cover any apparent errors in judgement or need I say….reasoning?

How can I get you to grasp my meaning but by anology. You know I love them!

You are driving your car to somewhere….it breaks down…..you step from the vehicle with an iron bar and begin beating the car with it!!

This what Dawkins and others are suggesting! There is no point to punishing people for their crimes…THEY HAD NO CHOICE!! They’ve got a bad transmission…or something!

Now so you can understand further,  let us go back in time to the Menedez Brother’s trial for the double murder of their mother and father. If the memory is fuzzy I will clear it for you,  then you can remember your disbelief and rage at the verdict.

ENTER; The frizzy headed blond ( blond….?  is there a joke here?) no, unfortunately there is not. I certainly wish I could be more emphatic, but you can only do so much with italics!

She was the one hold out on the Jury, which caused the Judge to declare a mistrial. In front of the cameras she Quite emotionally stated……” I could NOT vote for conviction!” “They are ORPHANS!”

I saw it,  most of you saw it,  it was all over television for days, remember? Well I certainly do. How about the O.J. trial? There has never been a trial presented with so much clear and damning evidence presented in modern America as that one…..the verdict? Not guilty.

Do you now begin to see what happens when everybodies looking for a pass! This is the world we live in now.

Now are there humans with little or even NO…. conscience? You bet the pants hanger behind you there are!  BUT, do they get a pass to continue to prey on humanity because they’ve got “bad parts” Or do we lock them up and throw away the ROOM if we have to…. to protect others…. never MIND punishment…Or even worse….. correction.

No Prison ever corrected anyone ever! It only “educated them that if they did that or some thing worse there would be a penalty for it…WHY? Because WE as a society SAID SO…….THAT”S….. WHY!! Some things are right…. somethings are wrong….CHOOSE WISELY…….sound familiar? It should.

So…to surmise what does all this mean. Well they mean on the serious side that the denial of free will is neither scientific nor sensible. One may say with all seriousness that science is,  that science that depends on cause and effect to be understood….. as science!

The study of conscience is far more difficult, in that it consists of minutia so small, over so long a time, as to be virtually indecipherable even with a computer. We can study the squiggles on an E.E.G. chart but to decipher what they mean, except in the physical aspects of them, is impossible! We cannot read the squiggles with out the patient telling us what they were thinking! This is also irrefutable.

To suggest that conscience is from the physical is ludicrous in the extreme….Wanna know why….not even you some times know why you “did” something! So explain to me how is THAT possible if it’s all physical. And yes I know about the lizard brain…..and it’s no frigging excuse for your actions except in times of almost fatal stress and reaction!
Times of passion don’t cut it in my book I ALWAYS knew what I was doing no matter how Pzzzd I was!!  What stopped me from acting,  was the knowledge of the consequences, to me, the focus of the anger, (which isn’t always another person) or to my family. Threaten them or me physically then it didn’t matter to me, you’re going down and then we might discuss further developments! My conscience was engaged every second of the confrontation and you’d better believe I knew it! So I refuse to buy the cheap crap excuses we hear every day from these fools that have brought this upon us and insist in forcing us to swallow it .

Free will A modest scientist would immediately concede that science says nothing at all about free will as a spirituality, anymore than it can deny the existence of God.
A materialistic or mechanistic view of the universe that leaves no room for the possibility of spiritual realities, is not a scientific one at all but a philosophical one. There is nothing scientific about denying that possibility.

Now we come to the chicken or the egg part of the discussion. Which came first…conscience or free will.

Well Theologically you MUST have conscience….. to HAVE free will! That is what your conscience is…. FOR! To allow you to choose. The right from the wrong…simple ain’t it…till you use it to solve real life problems THAT presents the difficulties I mentioned before and need not be restated here. Why do you NEED to be able to choose? Well if you have no choice then you DON’T have free will do you? Again Theologically speaking The first commandment (per Jesus) IS…”Love the Lord God with all your heart, all your spirit, all your mind and all your strength”

Without free will there is no love.  There can not be with no choice in the matter. In the case of no choice why would you even need a mind! You would not, everything would be rote repetition of previous experience. I have seen all the arguments about birds build nests and yes they do and according to their species they all build them somewhat differently don’t they…..Why don’t doves all build different KINDS of nests to support that argument. Why don’t beavers build condominiums….. instead of dams with sticks and mud…yeah they’er pretty good dams….. but not much good for anything else are they? That is NOT creation of the new is it? It is rote learned repetition as that is all they are capable of.

And so it is with free will and conscience with out one there is no need of the other.

So here’s the deal folks! You can continue to live with your scientific theories as your sole form of accepting you existence….I will live with my spirituality as mine.

You can NOT prove quite a bit of what you present most times, neither can I at least to you who have never experienced the spiritual in a believable, to you, way.

Be well friends…………..Rev Bruce………………….Tawodi

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A SIMPLE QUESTION ASKED…….What did early Christian meetings look like..?

Posted by tawodi on March 22, 2012


As most of you know I spend time on the Military. com site. While there I and others are asked many questions about religion and the duties of Clergy in general. I took this opportunity to answer one and thought to bring it here for you to ponder and consider…. those very early days before we had sects and divisions, there was only one WAY to follow. that of Jesus the Massiach.

[QUOTE] Early Christian meetings were primarily centered around a shared meal. [UNQUOTE] CPL BUCKLEY.

That was one thing that would stand out. It was called a love feast in those times, something that still exists as Lay ministers and others can do this instead of consecrating the elements of the Eucharist, which they cannot. If the host is blessed by someone in the Apostolic line of succession, (something rather hazy today) then the laity can hold Communion services, which of course is considered a Sacrament.

Baptism is also a Sacrament and there are only two such in most protestant churches, unlike the Catholic Church which considers many rituals Sacraments….such as marriage for instance. In protestant churches the oath, between the woman and the man, is the Sacrament, not the ceremony.

Of course that is not true in some of them!

After the feast, they would discuss Scripture and since they had only what is now known as the Old Testament that was the Holy book under discussion. Most of these discussion centered around prophesy, as one can understand.

As Peter, Silas, Paul, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, (Saul of Tarsus) Ananias, Phillip, Mathias, and Matthew, travelled a bit and some of course on missionary journeys of many miles and great lengths of time, they exchanged ideas, letters and word of mouth communications with one congregation or another. They became known as “Followers of The Way” The symbol, as most know, was the fish…as per Jesus telling the first disciples, “Follow Me and I will make you fishers of men”

The Chrysanthamum and the Rose were also early symbols of Christianity as well. It was somewhere around 60 to 75 A.D. that the Cross started to be used as the Christian symbol of the sect. The Chrysanthemum was used on funerary things like Ossuaries and tomb markings, to symbolize the return of life with resurrection.

Three of these are still used today. The Cross of course the fish and the Rose. When some thing is to be kept secret for instance, a rose is placed in a tall vase on the table and then the conversation takes place. After the conversation the rose is burned and the vase is destroyed marking the end of the secret session. From this comes the phrase, “Under the Rose”, to imply the utmost secrecy of the subject at hand. Also the red of the Rose is used to designate the red color and sacrifice of the Sacred heart, as well as it being said that apparitions of Mary, are always accompanied by the scent of roses.

And so, the Followers of the way progressed to ever more formally conducted meetings of prayer, sermonizing, (teaching or “preaching” which means the same thing) and ritual. Which at first consisted of telling the sayings that the disciples and others who remembered Jesus as having said…. and then, finally, about 40 A.D. they began to be written down.

Before you jump my “stuff”. Let me explain that fragments from this period are still in hand with-in the Vatican library/museum, but are virtually useless for any purpose. They DO have over nine hundred fragments from those times but the earliest useful tracts, that exist today, are from about one fifty to two hundred A.D. as most already know.

About eighty years ago it was thought that one of the first copies of “Revelations” of St. John of Patmos had been found, but carbon dating left it in doubt as samples of enough size failed to be obtained, and so it goes.

So, as you can see…. those early meetings were much like today’s house gatherings of worshippers to feast, discuss, worship and share in the experience, of forming a relationship of a personal nature with God, and Jesus The Christ…to enrich their lives in understanding and fellowship.

Be well friends….Rev. Bruce……………………..Tawodi

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2010 in review

Posted by tawodi on January 2, 2011


The stats helper monkeys at WordPress.com mulled over how this blog did in 2010, and here’s a high level summary of its overall blog health:

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A Boeing 747-400 passenger jet can hold 416 passengers. This blog was viewed about 2,000 times in 2010. That’s about 5 full 747s.

In 2010, there were 5 new posts, growing the total archive of this blog to 98 posts.

The busiest day of the year was February 7th with 22 views. The most popular post that day was Time to do the Mission.

Where did they come from?

The top referring sites in 2010 were search.aol.com, search.conduit.com, student-loan-consilidation.com, theamericanmuslim.net, and thermallaminatorreview.com.

Some visitors came searching, mostly for questions kids ask about god, dr. david barton, religion questions for kids, ecumenical religion, and role of god.

Attractions in 2010

These are the posts and pages that got the most views in 2010.

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Time to do the Mission December 2008

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What role does God play in the modern world? June 2008
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HOSPICE, WHAT IS IT? HOW DO I PROCEED ?? June 2007
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WHAT DOES ECUMENICAL REALLY MEAN ? May 2007
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Hospice care death and dying and psychological aspects of care August 2007

To all the readers of Life Religion and Family….THANK YOU!! I have been wondering about discontinuing some of my efforts in some areas….THIS WILL NOT BE ONE OF THEM!!     So once again to all of you THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!! 

Rev. Bruce………………………..Tawodi

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QUESTIOING THE BOOK

Posted by tawodi on January 31, 2010


I was asked a question on another forum whre I participate and thought my answer would help illustrate why I feel it important what we do here.
Rev. Bruce……………Tawodi

Questioning the contents of the Book”

From the time I was able, intelectually, to understand what I was pursuing (about twelve and a half ) I have questioned the “contents of The Book”.

Why? Because of good old Reverend Bell, of the Bethany Methodist Church on Wells street in Chicago Illinois!!

He very often would explain a point of scripture in Catechism and then would give us the position of the “Roman Catholics”. Now look at your foot and repeat after me, AND MEAN IT!! Ah crap!! I stepped in dog 5hit!! Now, listen to the inflection, tone, and accenting, of sylables. That is EXACTLY how he would say the words, Roman Catholic!!

As a twelve year old I knew that was wrong!! Half of my buddies were Catholic and there certainly wasn’t anything wrong with them!!

So after confirmation, when my Grandmother gave me my first Bible, I went and took some of the money I had been given for confirmation and bought Harpers Bible commentary and a Bible dictionary, and began reading it all, like I would read any book.

I was told not to do that, as I could not discern the “mysteries with in the “BOOK” unless somebody told me what it meant…silly me!!

I’m almost 64 years old and have contested with many Semenarians and Pastors Priests and Rabbis in my time and with many right here on these threads. AND especially since Beginning the People of Abraham, Christians, Muslims and Jews.

When in the closing years of my life I consider how foolish we all are to concentrate on our differences, instead of our similarities, I mourne for our race of beings and our future.

It is only in knowing that we will be brought into a future that is not now understandable to us, and the mechanisms necessary to make it function are not fathomable either, that I do not despair totally.

Ever since, all those years ago, I have questioned the Book…yes I have….But I have NEVER questioned the intent, or the existence of, the inspiration for it. As the imposition of command STILL allows free will. And that is the true sign, to me, of a loving Creator, one who givess us room to make our mistakes, is standing by to pick us up, dust us off, and send us on our way to try again. That is the meaning of agape’ LOVE, UNQUESTIONING, UNENDING, ALWAYS THERE, NEVER FADING, ALWAYS READY TO FORGIVE IF WE LOSE OUR STUBBORNESS AND…. SIMPLY ASK.

And that right there, is the only mystery to me. Why woulsd God do that? Well because he has that kind of love for us, that’s why!!!

T

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From Memorial Day

Posted by tawodi on May 30, 2009


The point is…once again….that your rights don’t come from MEN or GOVERNMENTS!!

If they did, the constitution wouldn’t be worth a tinker’s damn!!

The words of the Declaration of independance and the Constitution, are what created the dream in men’s minds that YOU are now living!!

That is all it is people, a dream!! That’s how truly fragile it really is!! It is a chimera, a wil-o-the wisp, A phantasm, sprung directly from the hearts of dreamers from over two centuries ago, that they formed into a living presence and a dream that millions have lived. And, they did so, without truly knowing what it was or how it was attained, but living it none the less.

A chimera, that some few among us all, even today, are willing to give their lives for, even though they couldn’t really explain it to you either!!

From time out of mind, from even before the dawn of civilization, men and women have felt it, lived for it, trained their children to covet and treasure it, even though they couldn’t explain it, or where it came from then, or where it comes from now.

Some shouted it as they died, some whispered it as their lives fled from them in rivulets across the ground, of some far away battlefield, they couldn’t even pronounce the name of properly.

Some have pursued it through swamps real and imagined, across deserts that stretched beyond their endurance, just as the hunger for it outlived them.

Some have provided it for us without knowing they did so, simply by being productive citizens and paying the taxes levied for the joint defense of us all.

Some have preserved it, dying in prisons of the unjust and by being remembered for their courage and inspiring us to ever greater efforts toward it’s preservation.

Some have conveyed with a glance, all of it’s meaning and some, with millions of words, have failed to convey even a glimmer of what it truly IS.

It is a word, a thought, a deed, a hope, a wish, a memory for some, for others a future untold.

But at the end of each day…still a dream, still a chimera, still a will-o-the wisp, unfathomable, unexplainable, unearned, loved and cherished, even to foolishness, but NEVER to be surrendered. NEVER to be given up and never, never to be thrown away!

The name of the dream?? One word…..freedom.

The place where it was truly given life in the minds and hearts of men?

The United States of America.

And for at least a while, as it is cast aside by the many for security in the foolish hope that a man can preserve it alone for us, with the hollow promises of a politician, the last best hope for the world, the same, The United States of America.

The land of dreamers….may we be preserved as such…….

Dedi cated to our troops and those who wonder at our nation.
Be well friends………..Rev. Bruce……………………….Tawodi

 

 
 

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How much more of this poison do we need to hear??

Posted by tawodi on May 12, 2009


The following is from Christians United For Israel’s blog and news letter, which I receive weekly I thought it time to bring some of this here so you can see what you may not be aware of, that is in the world.

Mind you this was at a meeting of held under U.N. auspices.   Is it time for some hard thinking vis a vis our relations with them and others??

Rev. Bruce

Author David Broder from his blog;

Last week, the day before Holocaust Remembrance Day, Iran’s President Ahmadinejad addressed the United Nations anti-racism conference in Geneva.  Here, he did a great favor for all who love Israel — he was honest.  He allowed his virulent hate for Israel and his bizarre anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to flow from his tongue largely unfiltered.  It was an ugly performance. 
 
The delegates from most European nations walked out on Ahmadinejad’s speech.  Even the UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, was moved to criticism.  Most other delegates, of course, remained in their seats.  Many cheered. 
 
But Ahmadinejad is rarely so honest.  And he is rarely so helpful.  It is what this man does in the shadows — not what he says in public — that is most dangerous.  And what he does in the dark typically gets far less attention.    
 
In a little-noted development last week, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, citing an Egyptian source, reported that unidentified warships torpedoed an Iranian cargo ship off the coast of Sudan.  The Iranian ship was reported to be laden with weapons bound for the Gaza Strip.  The warship is believed to have been Israeli
 
In January, there were numerous reports that unidentified warplanes attacked a convoy of trucks passing through the Sudanese desert.  The trucks were reported to be filled with Iranian arms bound for Gaza.  Well-placed sources have confirmed that the planes belonged to Israel.   

Israeli observers believe that this arms convoy contained Iranian Fajr rockets.  Such rockets — with a range of 70 kilometers — would give Hamas the ability to strike the heart of Tel Aviv. 
 
Looming large behind all of these efforts against Israel, of course, is Iran’s nuclear program.  Iran continues to enrich uranium in contravention of United Nations resolutions.  In February, United Nations officials acknowledged that Iran now has enough enriched uranium for an atomic weapon. 
 
Which leads us to one final news item from last week.  In hearings before Congress, Secretary of State Hilary Clinton warned that the US is laying the groundwork for “crippling sanctions” against Iran if diplomacy fails to stop its nuclear program.  This is a certainly a positive development.  Offering Mr. Ahmadinejad carrots without a stick in sight was unlikely to elicit much of a response. 
 
The Iranian threat is not going away.  And walking out on Ahmadinejad’s speeches — while important and deeply appreciated — does nothing to stop his steady, daily, determined actions to confront Israel.  Offering negotiations — while quite possibly a good way to build greater international support — must not be allowed to turn into yet another opportunity for Ahmadinejad to delay and stall.  It is time for the world to graduate from gestures to actions. 
 
Iran has proven itself able to talk and act at the same time.  The Israelis, too, are acting with constant vigilance to keep Iran from arming its proxies on Israel’s border.  There is no reason why we should not act as well.  There is indeed a time for “crippling sanctions” against Iran.  That time is now.  

 These are dangerousd times and we ALL of us owe Mr David Broder and Reverend Hagee our thanks for bringing these things to our attention when so many will not, especially our main stream media.

Rev. Bruce Holzrichter Sr……………………….Tawodi

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A conversation in progress with a Chaplain friend

Posted by tawodi on April 2, 2009


I made a post on another forum and thought it might make for interesting reading here;  The beginning premise of the questions are,   prevenient grace from God.

O.K.

The accusation of not being able to be objective wears a little thin with me and here’s why. For most of my life you could have called me an agnostic at best.

I studied, compared, analysed, debated, argued, fussed, fumed and finally said, the hell with it all, at about the age of thirty two.

Then came Jan 8th 1983….ah crap!!! talked to my counsellor I was seeing at the time, told him what happened and finally said to myself, O.K. fool, now you know what a nervous breakdown feels like!! And got on with it….that’s the way I am, for a whole host of reasons, quit B***chin and GET ON WITH IT!!!

I Kept reading though, checkin’ things out, still wouldn’t fully commit to ministry, though I did attend church sporadically from 1991 on and did work as a lay speaker and things.

2002 June, Bang!!! Slam!!! Dunk!!! Alright why me, and moreover, why NOT me?? Started REALLY checking things out and found out something….there have been literally hundreds of times when things that I did, made no sense what-so-ever for the person I was at the time, but they all each and every one of them turned out good and sometimes with totally unforseen outcomes that were NEVER seen that way before by me till I sought the answers.

And man, did I get some flipping answers!!!

Now, I don’t ask a single person to accept, or believe, the reality that I have found, because they have to find it on their own….but it is real, it is proven, and I live it every day and will till I die!!

AND!!! It was REASON that brought me here!!

So make of it what you will, I will not argue it, I will not defend it, it needs no defense, I’m not selling it to you, if you want it, it’s free!! Take it or leave it…your choice…..

Choose wisely….T

And, immediately followed that with this for others who participated.

Alright fellas I needed to say the forgoing first, because there’s more!!

The above is about me, and me alone. Others have had similar experiences and feel as I do. Some are not as erudite as I, so be it. Some are much more so….so be it.

There are others though, that have NOT done the work I and others have done. They listen to others tell them things and parrot those things as gospel and fall into large dark places and bring others with them. I don’t argue that point with you, or anybody else, because it is true.

Extremeism is ugly, destructive and deadly, as we all know and it is destructive in ways that are not violent but destroy the person, not the place, on personal levels not seen with the eye, in families, in society and in the world in general.

All of you also know I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade and point out along with you, those times when it needs doing, and I do more than just point fingers, as you all know as well.

But to stop the destruction, stop the violence, and stop the devision, you guys of no religious systems and I, are in my mind, allies and brothers in arms, as we once were, for real, in the world. I take pride in seeking justice with you in those times when it is hard to find, or simply overlooked because of biases that some possess and can not see beyond.

So, stick that in your hooka and smoke it!!

Angel/Devil T

And then my friend asked the following question;

Bruce…

Did you ever wonder why we only see the real prevenience when looking back. Sometimes over many years and in many situations, but always when looking back. Just some thoughts…
Be well…
CJ

And, the answer was………

Yeah C.J., I have wondered that, and don’t any longer.

What has to transpire, is the loss of surity of, “self”.

Some thing, or series of some things, must occur to rattle you down to your very core and force you to ask questions of your self, that are too frightening to ask under normal circumstances, or the need simply never arises within you to ask them.

That something does NOT have to be life threatening, destructive, or simply uncomfortable. It must motivate you, to do the work, to see who you REALLY are though.

You must be willing to stand naked in front of the mirror of your mind, SEEING the scars and how you got them, the pimples, the warts, ALL of it, and take each answer as it comes, honestly, no matter how disparageing to your self image it may be, no matter how painful the truth is, and incorporating it into who, and WHAT, you truly are.

I have learned, that very damned few of us will do that.

I learned it by the time I was twenty, I never could stand the illusions that people try to foist off on me, and could not stand excuse making on my part either. This has caused untold misery for me in my life, because if you have no illusions about yourself, others see that, and they understand that you will not tolerate theirs, about themselves. This is enemy making 101 in the social hierarchy that we have created in the world today. Perhaps it always was, I don’t know.

I mostly kept to myself, even when participating in so many different things, throughout my life.

The short answer to your question is, we always credit ourselves with too much, when citing our accomplishments, forgetting family, friends, co-workers, and too many others, that are forgotten along the way, that we learned from, took advantage of, or simply observed and copied, to achieve whatever it was, we have achieved.

Never mind giving credit to God, for the very life we enjoy!!!

I sincerely believe, that when people see how little it is, that they truly “control”, it is of a power to drop most to their knees!!! It scares the average person to their core, to realise the helplessness that each of us truly labors under, when we tout ourselves so highly, unthinkingly!!

Then when you see, as I have, the indomitable courage of the aged to face life on it’s own terms as the end come rushing toward them, it is the most humbling thing to endure as you witness it.

The posturing of the politicians, and the power that people ascribe to them, to control their existence is laughable. When you KNOW the truth about life. The atheists have, by and large, bestowed the fealty that you and I feel toward God, to men, politics, and themselves. It would be sad, if it wasn’t so futile and empty, becuase of it’s predictable futility.

Politics is the new religion of the twenty first century. It’s too bad that it is already showing itself threadbare and worn, as the politics through the ages, have shown them selves to be.

CLUE; the oldest continuous writings we have, are found in the Bible and almost EVERYBODY misses the point!!!

This is the story of human kind!! NOT how it was formed. NOT who God is. NOT what God wants!! BUT, the stories of HUMAN BEINGS and how they interacted with each other, and the things they SHOULD have learned about God, and didn’t, along the way. The stories always have a human protagonist don’t they? There’s a reason for that, the POINT, is how the HUMAN responded, NOT God!! God is consistant, even predictable, while through out the Bible man is not!! All the variables, the foibles, the frailty, the dishonesty, the thieving, murderous nature of us all, is exposed for all to see, and people concentrate on God when they ought to be examining themselves!! THAT is the point!! Self examinination and THEN, apply the lessons learned in the BOOK!

So, all in all, that is why we don’t see it, till we look back!!

T

As you can see there is some stuff here to think about that is of a personal nature for us all, as I said choose wisely!!

Rev. Bruce…………………………………….Tawodi

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Columbus Day look what you started Mr C !!!

Posted by tawodi on October 8, 2007


I posted this in the military forums this morning I thought you may enjoy it also, happy Columbus Day.

Howdy, happy Columbus Day;

It seems appropriate that this is here on this day.

The title of this thread led me to believe that Bill was going to post the Bible passages of various verses, where we are admonished to respect worldly governments,as institutions allowed to men and, recognized as necessary by God.

We are told, repeatedly, that governments that are just, rest assured of Gods blessing. We are told as christians, “render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasers.”

We are told, we are to be in the world but, not OF the world.

Were we settled by people ( puritans) who were devout and in their words engaged in” building a shining city on a hill??” Yes, we were.

As the colonial society grew into what would become The United States, did the bigotry of some “christian” sects seep into the cracks of that society? Yes it did, put plainly and simply.

For awhile it was legal to shoot Catholics in Mary’s town, later Maryland.

Was it legal to shoot anyone seen coming over the border into the Massachussetts Bay colony from Rhode Island? Legal? Hell it was required that you do!!! Believe it or not that law finally came off the books in the late eighties here in Ma.. 1980’s !!

These two, as well as hundreds of instances of others, are why the constitution was framed as it was.

First, to assure the world that HUMAN RIGHTS, come from where ever you choose to, or WHAT ever you choose to, consider a higher power.NOT FROM MEN!!

It was framed to assure that this government has NO power to take them away. NONE!!

It ,the constitution, was framed to assure that the sole existance of, THIS CONSTITTUION, is to protect them, enshrine them in such a way, that
Those who follow down the path of whatever destiny this nation has, never forget that. The constittuion does not and, was not, formed to GIVE YOU ANY RIGHTS AT ALL!!!

This constitution was framed and, this form of government, was CRAFTED to protect your rights, provide for the common defense to do so, and to be that just government of that shining city on a hill.

We, all of us who pray, ask for wisdom, next time you pray for that, think and, Thank God, or whatever providence you happen to believe in, that the framers and the builders, SOMEHOW, inculcated in our people the thought that, THE JUST LAW, agreed upon by our citizens, is to be the ruler, in THIS country. Not whoever happens to presently shine in the cults of personality. The politically popular or the temporarily
transcendant , in the temporary passions we see all around us, as they rise and fall in seeming importance.

Think of these things as you consider all of this, look into your heart and admit to yourself, that there have been and, will be times, when you yourself are dangerous in your passions and belief and, in the heights of passion are capable in the imprudent statement, or the innapropriate or even violent action that passion brings, as it suspends judgment.

Good article to post Bill, happy Columbus day, and, lets all once again thank all those “old dead white guys” for their skill, wisdom and yes, the passion, to give us what they did….the last best hope of Mankind, That shining city on a hill.

Be well  all………….Rev. Bruce………………………………………………………………..Tawodi

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MODERN DAY CONUNDRUM OR PROPHET, PROPHET, WHO’S GOT THE PROPHET

Posted by tawodi on September 23, 2007


I was thinking this morning that it’s been awhile since I have posted,  (again)  eleven days or so and it got me to thinking ………What would it be like to be a prophet in todays world ? NO  I  am NOT saying I’m a prophet!! I was just……Never mind………Anyway lets imagine you’re sitting on your lawn chair one afternoon and you hear a voice, no wait I just went one better!!  You are reading the Boston Phoenix and perusing the personal ads and find this………………

WANTED;  Young person male or female 25 to 35 …must be willing to travel,  speaking skills of the highest order required, ability  to follow EXPLICIT  instructions a must!! Travel arrangements will be forwarded but,  applicant must be willing to walk …A  LOT!!  Clothing allowance minimal,   as a matter of fact wardrobe to consist of leather belt and hair shirt, ( Type of hair, your choice)  Food allowance,  food will be provided………..must NOT be allergic to Honey and bugs……lots of bugs!!

Name change may be required, (  if your name is John or Joan you can disregard this requirement)  Long hours, meet new people, travel to strange distant lands sel………er………spreading a message from a VERY special source!!

Family ties may be an encumbrance so it is reccomended that applicant be single,  unnattached ( NO DIVORCE’S) able to pull up stakes at a moments notice, ( Yes, tent is available) work long hours, at no pay,  face down hostile audiences and hecklers,  some of quite renowned status, and most importantly keep you wits about you,  and  a  good head on your shoulders!!  ( More about this part later!)  CALL  1 800 God is waiting………

HELLO!  uh…yes it is…..What’s your name?  John! EXCELLENT, where are you calling from John?   Earth!,  well John I  KNEW  that,  yes….yes I did…..as a matter of fact your address is………no I’m not using caller I.D.  Yes I can answer those questions………..remuneration????  OH! what does the job PAY  yes,  of course I understand why you might ask that!!  Well John it doesn’t pay any thing….no  not one red cent…..But I must say it is a, very,  Rewarding path to follow!!   Yes your  insightfull nature  IS a help, but  is not required but,, you MUST be willing to forgo immediate gratification, as a matter of fact, all your rewards except one must come from simply doing the job…………….that one?  UUHHMMMM,, …well…it’s eternal life……………NO!  REALLY!!!   You can trust me it’s true!!  ETERNAL LIFE!!  Prove it?  This has ALWAYS  been the sticky part…………….O.K. but if I prove it you’ve GOT to take the job…………..deal???   John?    John???   OH!  thought I’d lost you there for a moment!!…………….Still thinking?  Go  ahead take your time  I  have all the time in the world……it’s O.K. to laugh  John,  it’s a little joke on my part………..no really,  it’s O.K. ……………still thinking?   Take your time…….

Well  lets see,  I had the same question from a guy named Moses,  he said he wouldn’t know what to say either,  so I explained to him,  it’s  kind of like the military, you’ll be told what you need to know,  when you need to know it…….you don’t like the military way of thinking??   Oh you don’t believe they are CAPABLE of thinking!!……………Uh  John  let’s get something straight right now.  Soldiers think much more about what REALLY matters than you John….yes they do,  after all,  they are putting their lives on the line for you!!….Yes they are. Why??  So you can sit on your couch and when Sue comes over …..Never mind….yeah John I know about that… I’m God remember???  NO!  I’m not trying to twist your arm to take the job…really I’m not!!  Have you thought it over??………..Retirement?  uuhh,  John,  you won’t have to worry about that…….yes,  I’m  sure.  Vacations??    Nope, none!!  Health care!??    I’ll take care of that for you…..yes  I can gaurantee that…….in writing??………….well……..tell you what,   look out the window…………YEAH!!  That really is neat isn’t it!!  Yellow ?? You want to see the letters in yellow??  Alright look again……like that huh?    blue………don’t push it, John!! 

Foriegn languages uhmmm  you wont need to worry about that either….How do I know?    John,  John,  John,, remember who this is??  You want to be sure??  Turn on your T.V.  never mind I will…….What no that’s easy  no it really is I just think…..well never mind that now watch this….yes that really is you….yes that is Swahili , no,  it’s not a trick,  yeah that ones French….German…..Swedish…..Get the idea???  Yeah,  pretty much any thing I want to do…….Well,  yes,  John I could MAKE  you do it,  but that wouldn’t be right……Why??   Well John,  when you make the rules you kinda,  sorta,  gotta stick by them,  know what I mean??  It would be bad form to break my own rules now,  wouldn’t it!!  Of course I do!!  I love you John,  I love all my creations……well that could be a problem………..Do you HAVE to love me??  Well no,  you don’t,  but it would be really nice if you did….No John I’m not going to send you to Hell…REALLY  I’m NOT  Why??  Well I’ve got this book and it tells you all the rules ….yes they are every where and for cheap money  after you read it you’ll give me your answer………….Great John……and John,  when you need a little help understanding some of it…. you call me,  you hear…………yes John I’ll be here,   I’m  ALWAYS  HERE  John………yeah,  I’ll wait to hear from you, bye now.  ( click.)

Today is Sunday………..Shabatt…Shalom………..Rev.  Bruce…………………………………………………Tawodi.

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